{"id":1194,"date":"2009-08-10T18:40:07","date_gmt":"2009-08-10T15:40:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/en\/?p=1194"},"modified":"2015-01-26T20:04:58","modified_gmt":"2015-01-26T18:04:58","slug":"the-worse-the-market-getsthe-more-unserious-many-people-become","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/english\/2009\/08\/10\/the-worse-the-market-getsthe-more-unserious-many-people-become\/","title":{"rendered":"The worse the market gets\u2026The more unserious many people become\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n\t<!--:en-->\n<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: center\">\n\t<strong><span style=\"font-size: 14pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman\">&ldquo;Prima Casa&rdquo; faces problems in Timisoara<\/span><\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n<\/h4>\n<h4 class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: center\">\n\t<strong><span style=\"font-size: 14pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman\">Part 1<\/span><\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n<\/h4>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\">\n\t<strong><span style=\"font-size: 14pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman\">(for part 2, click <a href=\"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/en\/2009\/08\/11\/the-worse-the-market-getsthe-more-unserious-many-people-become-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>)<\/span><\/span><\/strong>\n<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: center\">\n\t&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span><span style=\"font-size: small\">I was telling you few days ago that Timisoara and Cluj are very important cities for someone who wants to study the impact of &ldquo;Prima Casa&rdquo; project. <strong>Well, the first indications I can provide you are not very good. <\/strong>Ofcourse it is still August and nothing is sure, as most of the people are not into &ldquo;business mode&rdquo;, <strong>but the signs are significant&hellip;<\/strong><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: justify\">\n\t<span><span style=\"font-size: small\">Hello and have a nice week! I am back from a daily trip in Timisoara on Friday, where I was in meetings non stop from the moment I arrived (10.30) until the moment I was driven to the airport (18.15). Many new important deals are &ldquo;on the way&rdquo;, but they always need many meetings and serious thoughts before they will be finalized. (Yes, this is for my case, of the not intelligent, slow person who thinks a lot. I know that there are many guys out there who are asking the investors to solve all issues and pay money in few days&hellip;)<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: justify\">\n\t&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: justify\">\n\t<!--:--><!--more--><!--:en--><span><strong><span style=\"font-size: small\">Plenty of owners rose their prices 20 &ndash; 100% for ridiculous reasons&hellip;<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: justify\">\n\t<span><span style=\"font-size: small\">It could be funny, if it would not be that sad. I spoke with several agents in the city and it looks like after the first days, when indeed there were plenty of interested buyers and I heard of some transactions too, things have ceased now. The main reason is the new trend of many owners of apartments, especially the ones with 2 rooms close or in the center of the city. <strong>Before the programme to be launched, these properties had prices around 30.000 &ndash; 50.000 euro<\/strong> (This was the real price someone was obtaining, when he really wanted to sell). <strong>Today, there are plenty of owners reported having raised their price to 60.000 euro!<\/strong> Why is that? Because they heard that the State will guarantee loans up to this amount and they understood that this is the amount someone can pay.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: justify\">\n\t<span><span style=\"font-size: small\"><strong>Bingo! Again some people started the same like in the past (if they ever stopped)!<\/strong> So, it doesn&rsquo;t matter what is the financial capacity of a potential buyer. <strong>If the bank can lend him 60.000 euro, he should pay this amount, either his income allows this or not.<\/strong> People look only in the ability someone has to obtain a loan, not at the ability someone has to pay it back. Or if it makes sense for him to buy the apartment in a high price, even if the loan will be approved. <\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: justify\">\n\t&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: justify\">\n\t<span><strong><span style=\"font-size: small\">&ldquo;From 95.000 to 70.000 euro&rdquo;, or maybe 55.000 in reality?<\/span><\/strong><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: justify\">\n\t<span><span style=\"font-size: small\">On Friday I was reading in Ziarul Financiar that<strong> an apartment which was bought in Bucharest in May 2008 for 95.000 euro values now 70.000 euro. From the description I read, I don&rsquo;t think I would find someone willing to pay for this more than 50.000 &ndash; 55.000 euro<\/strong> (2 rooms apartment, 49 sq.m. in a&hellip; third class area). The owner will have to pay a loan for the following 30 years, paying a price which is almost double than the reality today. Obviously, he declared in the short interview he gave to the journalist Cristi Moga that he was not so happy. <\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: justify\">\n\t<span><span style=\"font-size: small\">So, now let us go back to Timisoara. <strong>After this crisis, the problems, the difficulties and everything else, what do we see?<\/strong><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: justify\">\n\t&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p align=\"right\" class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;text-align: right\">\n\t<span><span style=\"font-size: small\">(tomorrow the second part)<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\n\t&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<!--:--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&ldquo;Prima Casa&rdquo; faces problems in Timisoara Part 1 (for part 2, click here) &nbsp; I was telling you few days ago that Timisoara and Cluj are very important cities for someone who wants to study the impact of &ldquo;Prima Casa&rdquo; project. Well, the first indications I can provide you are not very good. Ofcourse it [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":59454,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[216,17,204,236],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/english\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1194"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/english\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/english\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/english\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/english\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1194"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/english\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1194\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/english\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/59454"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/english\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1194"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/english\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1194"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.iliaspapageorgiadis.ro\/english\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1194"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}